Welcome to the October 2008 issue of "Daltons in History". September has been another busy month for the DGS with changes afoot in our organisation for members in America, with further expansion of the Dalton International DNA Project, and with planning for our events in 2009. I cover each of these in a little more detail along with other topics below.

The DGS in America

Many members of the DGS and regular readers of "Daltons in History” will know that Millicent Craig has expressed her wish to retire from the position of American Secretary of the DGS, due to pressing family obligations that are demanding more and more of her time. For the past 15 years Millicent has been a tower of strength, nurturing the DGS presence in the United States and in Canada. Our North American membership has grown from about 10 active members in 1994/5 to close to 150 members today. Millicent has also been the driving force behind the Dalton International DNA Project, actively recruiting new participants and coordinating communication between new testees and their respective genetic family groups. It was also Millicent's inspiration to start the Dalton Data Bank project. The Society owes Millicent an enormous debt of gratitude for her dedication and for all the work that she has initiated and undertaken during this time.

I am delighted to announce that DGS member, Karen Dalton Preston, who lives in Las Vegas, has agreed to take up with immediate effect the position of Assistant DGS American Secretary, for a period over the next few weeks/months, as the duties and responsibilities are handed over, ensuring a smooth transition. In due course, Karen will assume the full role of DGS American Secretary, and the administration of the DGS membership in America.

Over the coming weeks, Karen will take up the roles of handling subscription renewals, recruitment of new members, enquiries about the DGS etc, and will generally ensure that the routine day to day contact with members is maintained and developed. This will be done with Millicent’s input and guidance.

Karen plans to build up a small team to assist her with the various tasks, and she will keep members informed as the team develops. I have asked Karen to introduce herself to you in this issue of "Daltons in History", and you will find this in the Notes from the American Secretary. We welcome Karen to her new role and I and all the DGS officers and committee look forward to working with her.

2008 Gathering in Ireland

Following on from the weekend in Birr at the beginning of August, we published a full account of the event in "Daltons in History” last month, together with a photo gallery. During the past month, I have received a substantial number of further photographs from delegates and, as soon as I find time, I will be adding some of these into the photo gallery where there are gaps.

The Dalton International DNA Project (DIDP)

Family Tree DNA has run a special promotion, which entitles individuals to join DIDP at greatly reduced prices. I drew this to your attention last month, and it has created considerable interest. I have been working with our local secretaries to advise prospective testees of this opportunity and we have a number of further recruits to the project. At the time of writing the promotion is due to end on 30th September. The promotion will have increased substantially the number of testees in our database, and this will enhance the value of DIDP enormously for us all.

Current DIDP participants will be aware that the DGS retains the services of Chris Pomery as our project consultant. I hold regular review meetings with Chris and updates are published on this website. Many new participants who have joined DIDP since the beginning of the year now have their test results, and a substantial number of these have been placed in existing genetic families and HAVE been put in direct touch with new "genetic cousins”.

Now with over 120 Y DNA project participants, DIDP is one of the largest and most respected projects of its type internationally, but we still need to expand it further, particularly with individuals who have documented ancestral lines that take them back to known English or Irish Dalton origins. The strength of the database as a family history research tool lies in its size, and its continued growth is of paramount importance to us all.

For further information please look at the "Dalton DNA Project” section of the website, and do please contact me by email if you would like to join the project, or if you have any questions which you wish to raise.

Future DGS Events

With the events programme for 2008 concluded, we have now turned our minds to 2009 and beyond. The major event next year is our Annual Gathering taking place in Orange, New South Wales, Australia on the weekend of 14th/15th March 2009. Initial details have been published and further details are available on this website this month. Maureen Collins and Helen Smith made a presentation about the event at Birr. Please do register your interest as soon as possible for what promises to be another memorable Dalton weekend.

Later in 2009, we will hold the DGS Annual General Meeting here in England. It will be a one day event, incorporating a visit with a Dalton connection and it will be in the North of England, probably in Lancashire. As soon as details are finalised, we will announce them here on our website and, of course, they will be included with the next issue of the DGS Journal at the end of this year.

2010 marks the 40th Anniversary of the founding of the Dalton Genealogical Society and we plan to hold a special Gathering and Annual General Meeting here in Surrey, England in the summer. Initial planning is under way and, again, more details will be announced as they become available.

For 2011 and beyond we have a number of suggestions already. If you have any particular thoughts about where you might like to meet, or a particular Dalton theme you think we should incorporate, please let us know.

The DGS Journal

Back issues of the DGS Journal continue to be available. On this website you can access the DGS Journal Index from the homepage. Here you will find a full synopsis of the contents of the Journal of the Dalton Genealogical Society commencing with Volume 1 published back in 1970 through to Volume 41 published in December 2004. Lists of contents are available for Volumes 42 to 48 and the full synopses will be available shortly. Copies of all back numbers are available for purchase and these can be obtained from DGS member, Mrs Pat Robinson (address: Mallards, 3 High Street, The Green, Barrington, Cambridge CB2 5QX, UK email: Details of prices, including postage and packing, will be found with the index.


Enjoy this month’s issue of "Daltons in History”, your regular monthly update on everything that is happening in the world of Dalton family history. We will be back again at the beginning of November.

Thank you for your attention and best wishes to you all.

Yours very sincerely

Michael Neale Dalton
Chairman and Honorary Life President of the Dalton Genealogical Society

As I was in France till the end of July this year, it was a bit of an effort to get to Ireland for the meeting at Birr, County Offaly – but was it worth it? Of course it was and Ciaran and Collette Dalton did a wonderful job in organising such a memorable week-end.

It was good also to be one of 4 Australian delegates at the meeting. Jilly Warren and I were booked into the Maltings Guest House and both our rooms had views to the river and were very spacious and comfortable. Breakfast there was a meeting in itself as we met Velma Boudreau from Newfoundland, Tom and Carol Daulton from Alaska and Pat and Geoffrey Robinson from Cambridge - an international collection plus our Irish hosts.

Several members have already written their stories of Birr but Jilly, Velma and I took a side trip to Ballinasloe rather than Athlone on the Sunday afternoon. One of Jilly’s forebears had been a jockey there and it is very much a part of the Galway Race week and there is a large bronze statue of a jockey with his horse in the centre of the town. It was a beautiful day and a treat to wander around this west Irish place and to walk along one of the canals and cross an ancient stone bridge. Many of us have Irish ancestry but not in the Dalton line and I do not tire of spending time in Ireland and soaking up the atmosphere even though research progress is slow for me. Caught by the history perhaps!

We have a lot to live up to in Australia after many successful Dalton Gatherings and I am sure that Orange, New South Wales in March 2009 will be another such occasion.

Maureen Collins, Australian Secretary


Mel, You asked for a reply or comments on the Birr Gathering this year. Well I have started to answer several times now, but each time I get saturated with all of the events we experienced on our 26 day tour of England, Wales, then Ireland followed with a visit to Scotland and down back through England and back again to Dublin and Birr Ireland. It was a lot to take in all at one time. I must say that the Birr trip was a good finishing touch to the long tour. It was really a good chance to meet not only some of the Daltons and to put a face to the names I have read about, or e-mailed, but by being in the centre of Ireland and in a rural setting it was a chance to see up close some of my Irish friends as well as the Dalton friends. I was astonished to find out that Ireland had a world class telescope in the mid 1800, long before other nations, then to top it all off the tour of Clonmacnoise and to realize all of the people who were touched by the events and times of that location for the many centuries. The mind can only wonder at the emotions they must have felt, the joy, peace, dreams, love and success to down right fear and terror of all the invaders and attacks they dealt with as they lived their lives there on the River Shannon. I did set out to understand the meaning and purpose of the Celtic cross while on this trip and the time at Clonmacnoise answered that. As far as the location of the meeting it was excellent to actually seeing real Irish people in a place were they live and work, in hotels, bed and breakfasts, retail store keepers, customers and waiters. A very good opportunity, I must say. As for the Gathering, it was very much worth the time and money spent there. I now can see Michael Dalton's face and demeanor as I hear or read about him. The same applies for all of the other officers as I hear of or from them as well. I was impressed with our Clan Chieftian Ciaran Dalton, a good choice was made there. He has a leader quality about him that shows him to be a caring and humble person, who is outgoing and personable, a good combination. And when I left the States I wanted for sure, to see and know the clan colours and dress, much as the Scottish have (naive American) only to find out there are none. Which seems very Irish, at that. All in all it was very Good Experience. Hope to do it again some day.

Tom and Carol Daulton, Alaska


Thank you to Ciaran, Collette, Michael, Kate and all others involved in organising the D.G.S. Gathering at Birr, County Offaly in August.

It was wonderful once again to meet up with the members I had met at previous D.G.S. Gatherings and delightful to see so many new faces.

One of the many highlights of the weekend was having Ciaran and Collette entertaining us with their music on Saturday and Sunday evening. After dinner on Saturday night Ciaran managed to get many of us face to face doing the "Siege of Ennis" which is an Irish dance. I assure you, it really was a battle with our partners at times. All in all lots of fun and laughter.

Every year the D.G.S Gathering is an experience not to be missed and I hope all those who attend Orange, NSW, Australia in 2009 will have a wonderful time.

Helen Smith, Australia


My mother and I had an enjoyable time at the Birr Gathering. It was great to renew acquaintances and to meet new Daltons who came from so many distant places. Also, many thanks to Michael and Ciaran for their successful organization of the event.

Eric Dalton and Karen Dalton, USA


Our thoughts about the Birr Gathering were principally that it was an excellent choice of place to have it and we enjoyed the town and the hotel where we were so well looked after. The Irish evenings were certainly memorable; it was so nice to meet and get to know the members of the Irish Clan so ably led by Ciaran. The visits were well chosen and Clonmacnoise was fascinating and our excellent guide provided an interesting commentary. The afternoon visit to the Shannonbridge Bog Railway was quite a contrast and an eye opener to the way the peat is cut collected and processed. Altogether another great success very much due to the faultless organisation.

Geoffrey and Jane Dalton, England


My thoughts of the gathering!

The weather was decidedly better than the last time we were in Ireland! I learnt so much about a tiny bit of Ireland's very interesting history but most of all the Gathering was made special by the company we had. I felt privileged to be part of the Family and that is how I look on the Gatherings now as meeting up with members of the family even if I haven't met them before! I look forward to meeting old and new members of 'The Family' at the next Gathering!

Pam and Dave Lynam, England


A personal report on the Dalton Genealogical Gathering
Birr, Co. Offaly, Ireland
August 1st 2nd 3rd 2008

Birr is an historic town in the centre of Ireland. There is The Birr Stone marking the exact centre of Ireland to prove it. Anyway it is in central Ireland and boasts a castle, with its 50 acre demesne and Scientific museum, well preserved Georgian malls, nice little shops, leafy walks along the Camcor River, converted distillery and an ancient staging post now Dooly’s Hotel which was the centre for our activities. A public holiday on Monday ensured a generous weekend of genealogy and various frivolous activities.

For my cousin Helen Smith and myself, the gathering provided two serendipitous connections.

The program of activities began on Friday afternoon in the demesne of Castle Birr where a number of DGS members strolled between showers. If I lived in Birr I would demand daily access to the demesne of Birr Castle. These beautiful grounds are owned by the current 9th Earl of Rosse, reputedly absent in China with his Chinese wife for the birth of his son. He and members of the family still live in the castle but not having sufficient funds to restore and maintain the gardens, allow Great Gardens of Ireland Restoration Scheme to assist with the massive undertaking.

It is early days and the grounds are somewhat wild and perhaps this is part of the seduction. There are gardens within gardens – a formal garden, 500 year old wild flower meadows, a lake, a bridge, a waterfall, Victorian glasshouses and hundreds and hundreds of significant trees from many parts of the world-all too much to see in a few hours. On the day we visited rolls of golden silage lay on the wide meadows like sculptured installations imitating the circular tube of the World Famous Telescope, strange and wondrous structure which dominates these fields. Created by the third Earl of Rosse (William Parsons) in the 1840’s- the largest telescope in the world for 70 years restored for a cost of €1.3 million, it now works as well as it did when the Earl discovered Whirpool Nebula 51 which proved the existence of galaxies other than ours.

For a brief instant walking through the columns of lime trees in the Whirlpool Spiral looking up into the leaves you can imagine the awe and wonder felt when 150 years ago the Earl looking in his great telescope discovered the Whirlpool Nebula, M51, -all those stars!

The demesne simultaneously creates a great calm and sense of purpose, a most appropriate beginning to the DGS weekend gathering in Birr.

In the evening, a meal in Dooly’s Hotel provided a chance to renew acquaintanceships and meet new members from as far away places like as Argentina and Alaska, Florida, New Zealand, Ireland and UK before the business of DGS began on Saturday morning in the Cumberland Room.

I was delighted to meet Mike and Kate Dalton from UK, Mike being a member of Group B genealogical family, with an ancestor trail back to Athea in Limerick close to where Helen Smith and I have relatives. Although we cannot find a documented connection apart from the DNA studies, Helen and I decided Mike does bear a resemblance to our cousin Leo Dalton.

Chairman Michael Neale Dalton guided the proceedings with its various reports and informative, entertaining address by Irish Secretary Cairan Dalton about Richard Dalton Williams.

Maureen Collins and Helen Smith from Australia were called upon to give the latest developments on arrangements for the March 2009 DGS gathering in Orange, New South Wales, Australia in and around Duntryleague the former family home of James Dalton, son of James Dalton of Limerick. This aroused much interest and we know of one UK couple who have already booked their tickets.

In the afternoon after an illustrated talk we undertook a guided walk with local historian Margaret Hogan visiting the various sights including the restored heritage Convent of Mercy which now houses the Birr library and Civic offices. Here we had our first moment of connection. Helen in talking to Margaret discovered that she is the great niece of Sr Mary Perpetua Walsh, a Mercy nun who taught at the Academy of Mary Immaculate in Fitzroy, Melbourne, Australia where we both attended school, and where Sr M. Perpetua had guided me through Leaving, Yr, 11 and Matriculation, Yr. 12. We are now in the process of sharing memorabilia about Margaret’s great aunt.

Helen Smith, Margaret Hogan and Wendy Fleming
at Birr Library in the historic renovated Mercy Convent

When we came home we calculated there were 7 Dalton descendants who went to the Academy.

After the Gathering Dinner at Dooly’s and charity raffle (proceeds to the British Heart Foundation in memory of Lucy Slater) the Irish Secretary Cairan Dalton took over leading us into a night of Irish entertainment.

The first treat came with traditional piper Dave Hegarty who entertained and fascinated all with his playing of the Uilleann Pipes. This was our second moment of connection when we were able to tell Dave about grandfather Richard Dalton b.1868 Abbeyfeale, Limerick who used to play the pipes for the Irish community in South Melbourne and St Patrick Day events in the Exhibition Buildings in Melbourne. He was always making reeds for the pipes. We were impressed when Dave looked at the photo of Richard and commented ‘You can tell by the way he holds the pipes he knew his instrument’. We are sending Richard’s details to Dave for his database of Irish pipers.

Pipes and Fiddle

Cairan Dalton plays a number of musical instruments so accompanied by his wife Collette on keyboard led the evening’s entertainment. Very soon we were tapping our feet or dancing. Just about everyone managed to get up and take part in the waltzes, foxtrots, Seige of Ennis set dance or a progressive barn dance. The award for ballroom dancing must go to John and Sheila Dalton - they were truly light on their feet, and for set dancing it would be hard to go beyond Kathleen M. Casey from NZ (Dalton ancestor from Co Kerry or maybe Co Limerick) although Helen Smith from Australia, Paddy and Pat Dalton from Meath, were also in the running or should it be dancing? .No one expired on the dance floor although I thought I might.

Sunday morning we went to Clonmacnoise site of a huge Abbey and scholastic community dating from 800s. A great morning among the ruins beside the Shannon.

Maureen at Clonmacnoise

Formalities closed with an excellent dinner at Thatch restaurant in Crinkle and more frivolity- this time singing. The depth of singing talents is yet to be fully measured however with songs from Paddy Dalton, Maureen Collins, Catherine Dalton and others.

Not everyone stayed the distance!!

Jilly Warren resting her eyes!

Is it too much to imagine it was because of our shared name that we go on so well all and entered into the spirit of the weekend?

Our experience of life in mid-Ireland was not yet finished as guests at Dooly’s experienced a noisy night from riotous guests of a wedding party (one of many that weekend) and a break- in at 3 am by three local lads looking for liquor. Helen and I slept through it.

Thanks must go to our chairman Michael Dalton for his considerable organisational efforts to arrange the gathering, and to Cairan Dalton, Irish Secretary for his address and coordination of entertainment all of which ensured a most enjoyable and entertaining weekend. Monday we made our farewells and now look forward to the next Gathering 15th March 2009 in Orange, NSW, Australia.

Wendy Fleming, Australia


It was lovely to meet you. I have only just returned from OS (11/09/2008) having visited Ireland, England, France and Japan.

I really enjoyed the conference and meeting more Daltons and their retinue, especially Irish ones in their own surroundings. I also enjoyed each person’s family story, bridges yet to cross and their successful research so far.

I enjoyed the Irish food and countryside but not the rain which managed to follow me after I left Birr and toured Ireland for 10 more days.

Whilst at the Gathering I detoured via Balinasloe (Galway) on my way back to Birr from Athlone and the Sunday luncheon. My father Aubrey Dalton's mother’s father was a Patrick Kelly and we have traced this family to Balinasloe in the very early 1800's. I took some great pictures of the ubiquitous stone walls, black faced sheep and stone cottages and have details to contact the Catholic Priest there.

I really enjoyed my accommodation in the Maltings at Birr, terrific breakfasts and the delight of the river flowing gently passed the building where I could hang out the window and watch the ducks socialising.

When I left the Gathering I made a dash with Howard Dalton to Abbeyleix (South before I headed North) on my way back to Dublin where I photographed Heywood Gardens the surviving garden of a great house which burned down in the 1920's. Heywood has significance in Australia because of a property near where I live is named after it. As development progresses here local historians and I are trying to have this new development named Heywood. My photos I hope will help our lobbying.

In Dublin I met up with an Australian friend and spent another 10 days travelling around Ireland in the rain, just managing to miss the floods. Places that I was most interested in were Down Cathedral and St. Patrick’s Museum, Belfast, The Giant's Causeway (the only day that was fine), Westport and Newcastle. At the tail end of our tour I even managed a few hours in Enniscorthy of particular interest to me because of Vinegar Hill and the 1798 Uprising. I managed to get a few photos of Vinegar Hill and the Black Stair Mountains. Many of the political prisoners from this uprising were deported to NSW where in March 1804 they rose again, unfinished business with the English from 1798. In Australia this uprising is known as the Battle of Vinegar Hill and it took place very close to where I lived for 40 years. In recent times we have managed to get the area designated as the Historic Area of Vinegar Hill of 7 square kilometres. It now boasts a Memorial, a Reserve, a road and a Library all named Vinegar Hill.

Jilly Warren nee Dalton, Australia


Being there for the gathering at Birr: It is indeed the heart of Ireland – people, buildings – olde, renovated and new, with so much to experience in a relaxed atmosphere within easy walking and driving distance. Kudos to DGS founder Michael Neale and Irish bard Ciaran for making things happen in a smooth, coordinated manner and for providing an irish rendition of American Idol and Dancing with the stars.

Mike Dalton, Oregon, USA


Birr, what a Gathering!

A time to renew acquaintances (it didn’t seem a year since our last meeting in Worcester). A time to make new friends from across the world, Alaska to New Zealand. Memories of the Georgian townhouse where we stayed, the elegant homes of Birr, the Thatch at Crinkle where music and singing filled the air. A time to listen to each other’s Dalton family stories spurring us on to find that elusive male living Dalton. (We are getting closer and hopefully more news after our further trip to Ireland in November).

A time to say thanks to everyone for their friendship.

Mel and Dairne Irwin, England

DGS Meeting at Orange, NSW, Australia - 13 - 15 March 2009

The plans to hold a meeting at Orange, N.S.W. are moving ahead and it is hoped that many DGS members will be able to attend.

Chairman and Hon. Life President of the DGS, Michael Neale Dalton and his wife Kate will be in Australia for the meeting. At this time, the Australian and New Zealand branch of the DGS has reserved space for Saturday 14th March 2009 at Duntryleague (perhaps in the Dalton Room) and this will need to be confirmed. For this reason it would be helpful to find out approximately how many members, family and friends, intend to attend the meeting to be held over the week-end of the 13th to 15th March 2009.

Would you be kind enough to indicate your interest in attending so that arrangements can be made at the Central Caleula Motor Inn. “Heritage House” is adjacent to the motel, and run by it, and it is likely to be used for the Saturday evening dinner. Other definite arrangements can be made at a later date, depending on numbers.

Please indicate below your interest in attending the whole or part of the week-end and return by mail to Maureen Collins, 1/11 Moruben Road, Mosman NSW 2088 or email to or to or to




Tel No.................................. Email........................................................

Please address any queries to: Helen Smith at the above address or if in Victoria to Wendy Fleming or to myself. It would be appreciated if your replies could be received by 31 October this year to allow for further information to be published in the DGS Journal published in December.


DGS Meeting at Orange, NSW, Australia - 13-15 March 2009
Description of Duntryleague (Pictured Above)

In 1876, James Dalton the younger built Duntryleague, a mansion with magnificent views of the surrounding countryside. The mansion was sold to Orange Golf Club in 1935 when an eighteen hole championship golf course was established. The house itself is used as a club house with some guest house accommodation.


Come to Orange, New South Wales!
There’s so much there to do and see
Especially in March next year
With the Dalton G.S. family

A pioneering city this with Dalton homes a-plenty
Let us begin with “Duntryleague”
T’was built by James the Younger, just one of
Many houses full of Dalton history

And Orange has a princely name for reasons quite obscure
Not oranges, but apples; grapes and cherries too
For there are many puzzles in the land of the kangaroo
To gain a little insight, why not take the heritage tour

From the top of Mount Canobolas across those sweeping plains
No beaches here in Orange but hills and creeks and rivers
Though drought is always likely with farmers ever hopeful
That there will be more rains

So come to Orange, New South Wales in March
Two thousand nine
To take a tour and meet with friends both old and new
We’ll put out Aussie welcome mats to make you feel at home
And drink a toast to everyone with first class local wine.

From Tom Wood and Gerry Dalton, Australia's answer to Sherlock Holmes!!

An article from a February 1962 Mount Isa Mail newspaper about a Don Dalton in a boxing tournament:

Smithers-Dalton bout tipped to be sensation

Promotors of the boxing tournament to be held at Kruttschnitt Park tonight are confident of a sell-out.

The Mount Isa Amateur Athletic Club is promoting the tournament. Already most of the 600 ringside seats have been sold out. Four Hundred grandstand seats have been reserved for sale at the gates tonight.

Main contest on the programme is a six round bout between Warren Smithers and Don Dalton. It will be the third time the pair have met. Smithers won the first fight in Cloncurry about five months ago, and Dalton won the second fight, also in Cloncurry. Tonight’s tournament will give Mount Isa residents their first opportunity of seeing the two men in action.

Both boxers have been training solidly and are at the top of their form. Smithers who has been sparring and working out on the speed ball and heavy bag every night at the B.S.D. Gym, said yesterday he has never been fitter. He said his left hand, which he injured about a fortnight ago, had now healed.

Cloncurry reports indicate that Dalton has also reached the peak of his form. Both boxers are determined to win this deciding contest

The rest of the programme has not yet been decided but promoters now expect 20 supporting bouts. Eighteen of the preliminaries have already been arranged and two others have yet to be finalised.

The promoters hope to make the tournament a “test match style,” matching Cloncurry fighters against Mount Isa when possible.

All of the preliminaries will be over three two minute rounds. Organisers warn patrons that only the main gate of the stadium will be open.

The gates will be open from 7 pm. Refreshments will be available on the ground.

Don Dalton may have been an Australian Aboriginal boxer but we can't be sure of that. Maybe someone who reads Daltons in History would like to make a comment.

Tom Wood and Gerry Dalton have found references in the Queensland Police Gazettes of the late 1800's to several Daltons described as Aboriginal or part Aboriginal and one has to wonder how they obtained the surname Dalton.

From Michael Neale Dalton, Chairman and Honorary Life President of the Dalton Genealogical Society

During September 2008 Michael & Kate Dalton visited St George’s Chapel, Windsor and whilst there they were shown the window that commemorates John Neale Dalton as a Canon of Windsor from 1884 until his death in 1931. Here Michael describes the visit and provides some interesting background on Canon Dalton.

It was on a rather wet day in early September 2008 that we found ourselves on a visit to St George’s Chapel, Windsor, primarily to view the magnificent stained glass in this wonderful old building that sits within the precincts of Windsor Castle and is the home of the Order of the Garter founded by Edward III in 1348.

Whilst there we enquired whether it might be possible to view the Canon Dalton memorial window in the Chapter Room, which is in a private part of St George’s not open to public view. Many years ago this window was brought to my attention by a friend, who saw it and photographed it for me whilst visiting St George’s in his professional capacity as an audit accountant. We were most fortunate that the Chapter Clerk, Miss Charlotte Manley, invited us to see the window and re-photograph it. The photographs below are reproduced on this website by kind permission of the Dean and Canons of Windsor.

Michael Dalton points to the Chapter Room window with Canon Dalton's Coat of Arms

Detail of the stained glass window with Canon Dalton's Coat of Arms

During our time with Miss Manley we asked about other memorials to Canon Dalton at St George’s and she looked up in the book that records the details of the monuments in the chapel and found entry number 82, which reads as follows:



K.C.V.O., C.M.G.
Canon and Steward of St George’s
Tutor and Governor to His Majesty
King George V, when Prince George
of Wales, and to his elder brother
Prince Albert Victor, 1871-1884
Deputy Clerk of the Closet and
Domestic Chaplain to the King.
Master of the Drapers Company 1920
Born September 24th 1839
Died July 28th 1931
Also his wife
Born December 6th 1863
Died March 25th 1944

Pavement, South Choir Aisle. Not signed. Description. Black stone slab, 24 in x 33 in

We were then shown this monument, inconspicuously placed in the South Choir Aisle, only to discover that we had walked over it earlier in the afternoon without knowing anything about it! What a wonderful day of discovery we had been fortunate enough to enjoy.

The full story of Canon Dalton is a long and interesting one and it is planned to include a more in depth article about him in the next issue of the DGS Journal. This will give an insight into his long and often colourful life. It was as long ago as 1973 that there was something written in the Journal about him (DGSJ Vol 4 pp 15-20). He was the son of Rev John Neale Dalton, Rector of Milton Keynes, a grandson of John Dalton and Hannah Neale, and the father of Hugh Dalton, who became Chancellor of the Exchequer in the Labour government after the Second World War. He was appointed by Queen Victoria as the tutor to the two Royal Princes, her grandsons, as recorded on the monument.

I conclude this note with an extract from "The Dalton Book" by Frances Edith Leaning (nee Dalton), a first cousin once removed of the Canon, who attended his funeral service in St George's Chapel:

On Monday evening, July 27, 1931, Canon Dalton read the second lesson in St George's Chapel; on Tuesday morning the tolling of the Castle bell announced his sudden death. He had appeared in normal health and quite cheerful the previous evening, and the long obituary notice in the Times ends one paragraph with the words "an ideal ending to a wonderful old age". His remains were cremated at Woking on Thursday, and the ashes interred in St George's Chapel on Friday, the 31st, in the presence of a great concourse. The King and Queen were represented, the Mayor of Windsor was there, the Military Knights of the Order, the Master and Members of the Court of the Drapers' Company, and many others. I was fortunate in obtaining a seat in the Choir, and was struck by seeing for the first time funeral wreaths in all the most brilliant colours. They completely covered the stretch of turf outside the Chapel. The service varied from the Prayer Book by being full of music, Psalms 133 and 146, and special and beautiful sentences after the Lesson, concluding with a hymn.

Mrs Polly Hodgson nee Dalton
From Pam Lynam, Secretary of the Dalton Genealogical Society

Polly is the 6th of 13 children from Zebedee and Maria Dalton (Pam Lynam’s great grandparents).

Polly Dalton taken when she was about 21 years of age

The following article was kindly sent to Pam by Mavis Hawksley, Polly’s granddaughter:


I have been visiting three nonagenarians, to whom we have extended birthday greetings during the past year, and asking them about the things they remember most vividly in their long and useful lives.

Our oldest member, Mrs Polly Hodgson (96 this month) regarded this fact with some disbelief, maintaining that it feels no different to nearly 96 than any other age. She still has very vivid recollections of her childhood days in Norfolk, where she daily walked three and a half miles to school, in hob-nailed boots regularly mended by her father (who was a mole catcher), carrying her lunch of bread and dripping, and the same distance to church on Sundays, at the village of Wretham. It was 5 miles to the nearest shops at Thetford – and there were no supermarkets then. Mrs Hodgson remembers stone-picking at harvest time. She left school at the age of 11, and after nursing her mother through her thirteenth confinement (she is now the sole survivor), she left home and went into service as a maid to Alderman Wiles, a Salt Merchant wose wife had 22 children, at Margaret Street in Hull (then quite an elite area), starting work at 1/- a week – the then cost of a bag of coal! When she had worked there for ten years she qualified for ‘Turner’s Charity’, a bequest of 10 gns by a Beverley philanthropist.

It was in Hull that Mrs Hodgson’s connection with Methodism began, and she has now been a member 85 years. Life was not always easy. She was widowed 50 years ago and left with 5 children to bring up, three of whom (Mrs Errington, Mrs Hunt and Mrs Norrie, with whom she now lives) are still in Cottingham. She herself came to Cottingham in July 1943, when her home in Hull was completely destroyed in an air raid, though she kept in close contact with her family in Norfolk for many years. At first she lived in a cottage in King Street and found people very kind in making numerous gifts of flowers, fruit and vegetables, so that she never went short. One of her many visitors was a Mr Westerdale, who was noted for sitting in the gallery at chapel, writing down the hymns and the text used for the sermon at every service. She spent her 80th birthday in hospital after a major operation and broke her leg at 84; nevertheless, she is still active and loves company. Until two years ago she pursued her hobbies of knitting (none of the male members of the family ever had to buy socks), producing many beautiful rugs and blankets for charity, and making scrap books for handicapped children.

From Ciaran Dalton, Irish Secretary of the Dalton Genealogical Society and Clan Dalton Chieftan

Many of those tracing their family history, especially if from abroad, often relate their difficulty in researching Irish records in general. Among the Irish Diaspora, estimated to be around seventy million, there is an increasing interest in family history and a corresponding wish to have more access to records. To be fair in recent times however, there has been a marked improvement in their availability. The Internet has played a tremendous role in facilitating this.

Of the most recent additions to the Net of special interest to members of the D.G.S. of Irish extraction, has been the digitising of the census of 1911. Similar records have been digitised already in Britain and America and other places, so it was timely for The National Archives here in Dublin to make this invaluable resource available to all. In conjunction with Library and Archives Canada, the census for Dublin City and County for 1911 is now online. The timetable at the Archives will have Kerry, Antrim, Down, complete on 23 December 2008, with the rest of the counties to follow. On completion of the 1911 census, the 1901 will also be digitised. While some data from the various census has appeared in "Daltons in History" and elsewhere, now we can do this research from the comfort of our own homes. Well done The National Archives!


Another area of research in Ireland that has caused some problems has been the non-availability, or difficulty in accessing records of some of the Catholic Parish Registers. Records from the Dioceses of Cloyne, Kerry, Cashel and Emly are now to be made available along with all the other dioceses of Ireland courtesy of The National Library of Ireland, we will now have access to all their microfilm copies of the priceless 19th century registers. The latter are essential records when researching family trees here in Ireland. We can glean much information from such sources as addresses, (townlands), names of both parents and sponsors(relatives?) at Baptism, etc. Marriage records have a lots of family data too.

This last mentioned development is good news for researchers and genealogists both amateur and professional. For the background to the parish registers debate visit Association of Professional Genealogists of Ireland at

See also Irish Roots, Issue No.67, Third Quarter 2008, Page 5.

This is the 5th part of an article from Rodney Dalton, USA

Sir John Dalton I, son of Sir Robert de Dalton was born about 1302 and died in 1369. He is famous for a black deed he was involved in on 31st March, 1347.

"Sir John Dalton with the aid of Baron Robert de Holland and four other Knights, abducted a married woman from her home, killing her Uncle, a Priest and various servants, terrified some of the Royal children who were staying there and stole valuables worth 1,000 pounds. Sir John married the lady the same day and fled northwards to take refuge with the Hollands at UpHolland. Afterwards he got a ship to take him and the lady overseas. His father Sir Robert, however, was not so fortunate. He was arrested and sent to the Tower of London and his lands were seized in 1347. Once again the Holland connection may have helped. Sir Robert was released in May 1348 and his lands restored. His wife's name is also given in the document of pardon; the only reference to her existence. She was Mary Latham, daughter of Sir Thomas Latham, a Lancashire neighbour. Sir John also emerged from the whole business more or less unscathed. In 1350 he was pardoned, and only one month later even more surprisingly was granted an annuity of £50 a year, so "that he may the better maintain himself in the King's service". The service was in the French Wars and Sir John is mentioned in connection with various incidents in the Hundred Years War".
Source: Mrs Morag Simpson.

So as you have read, Sir John Dalton I served in the French wars at the time and at the start of the "Hundred Years War".

The "Hundred Years' War" between France and England (1336-1453) was an episodic struggle lasting well over a hundred years. The first big battle was fought in the French town of Crecy.

The Battle of Crécy, fought on Saturday, 26th August, 1346 was the first of several significant battles during which the longbow triumphed over crossbowmen and armoured knights.

French forces numbered approximately 36,000. English forces numbered approximately 12,000 of which approximately 7,000 were archers.

The English army, occupying the top of a gentle ridge near the town, consisted of three groups of men-at-arms and spearmen, with archers placed on their sides. The archers formed ranks resembling an outward V.

Each English archer carried 2 sheaves of arrows (48) into battle. Resupply was accomplished by going back through the lines or having more brought forward. Arrows, depending on type and weight, could be shot 250 to 300 yards. The English archers could shoot an average of 10 arrows per minute. The total number of arrows shot during the battle is estimated at a half million.

There were 14 to 16 charges made against the English lines from the start of the battle at 4:00pm until the completion at midnight. Casualties were estimated from 5,000 (low) to 10,000 or more (high) for the French Knights and Genoese crossbowmen. English casualties were several hundred.

Crecy was probably the first battle our Sir John Dalton I was in and he may have been in others, but we must search this out in the records.

Sir John Dalton II was the son of Sir John I and we have no record of his fighting in any major wars or battles. He may have served in the North of England during the Second War of Independence with Scotland. This Sir John had 2 sons who were also Knight'. Sir Rychard Dalton of Althorp, Northamptonshire, England and Sir John Dalton. There is no reason not to think these mentioned Daltons did not have to fight in some battles because they were in some kind of service to their Lord and King.

Extracts from the Brooklyn Eagle, 1879

From Theckla Ledyard, Washington State, USA

27th January - Sunday Card Playing – Detectives enter Billiard Hall of Arthur Yong, 44 Myrtle Avenue and arrest Joseph Dalton, among others, for gambling.

2nd February - Henry Dalton, aged 43, of 300 Cherry Street, car driver, was brought up on a complaint of Josephine Dalton who claims to be his wife, for having intermarried Emily Guest at the Presbyterian Church, 128 Allen Street on 15th September, 1878, while he knew she was still alive. Complainant is a very pretty woman, and wore a fashionable hat, kid gloves and an India shawl. The accused stated that he had not been living with her for over 7 years, and that she has lived in improper relations with one John Tombrouck at 281 Delancy Street during that term and given birth to children by him. This was positively denied by the complainant. Bondsman Riley made the arrest and saw a child, aged 13 years, with Dalton, the fruit of the first marriage. He was held in default of $1,000 bail.

4th March - Thomas J Dalton, age f yrs. 8 mos. 22 days died. Son of James Dalton and the late Ann Donahue. Funeral from his parents’ residence 20 Ryerson Street. Interred Cemetery of Holy Cross, Flatbush.

23March - Rondout, NY 22nd March – Kingston Election fraud – Jim Dalton one of the leaders of the Ring Party preventing people from voting.

3rd May - St Joseph’s Academy on Dean Street – Annual May Festival On the program “Angel of Spring”. Taking part the Misses Dalton.

5th May - F Dalton’s manufactory, harness of every description, etc. F. Dalton, 164 Atlantic Avenue near Clifton Street.

3rd June - County Matters – Packages at storehouse – Griedman’s and Dalton’s was highest bid to purchase empty packages and remove from storehouse.

3rd July - Closing Ceremonies on program at St Patrick’s Academy – T P J Dalton declaimed on Irelands Penal Code. Roll of Honor in Second Class was T P Dalton.

6th October - Thomas Dalton of London, England died age 53 on 5th instant. Services at St Mark’s Episcopal Church at Adelphi Street.

16th October - from Memphis, Tenn. - Yellow Fever - One death has occurred since last evening, viz., Thomas Dalton.

26th November - Miss Jessie Dalton sang Swiss Echo song, plus Within a Mile of Edinburgh Town at concert at Simpson Church.

26th November - Stephen Dalton, boot black, 511 Court Street – suspicion of stealing was arrested.

20th December - Boat Owners Association Ball – T J Dalton was on the Door Committee.

23rd December - Policeman Thomas Dalton was investigating a burglary on 47th Street.

Above, in the Notes from the Chairman, Michael Dalton has announced that Karen Dalton Preston has been appointed as the DGS Assistant American Secretary. Here Karen introduces herself to you.

I am so pleased to be serving the DGS, initially in the role of Assistant American Secretary. First, a short introduction. My husband David and I are both retired from the networking software industry in Silicon Valley, and retirement is what brought us to Las Vegas. I am an accidental genealogist. I wandered into my research when my husband and I were planning a trip to Ireland in 2004. One of the travel guides had a section on tracing your roots in Ireland, so I thought this would be a great opportunity to learn where in Ireland my Dalton ancestors came from. We didn't make the trip to Ireland in 2004, but I was launched into a compelling avocation. It's ironic that although I started my family history research with the Daltons, they have proved to be the most difficult of all my family lines to research! I have had far more luck with several of the other branches of my family tree. I just couldn't seem to find the Irish origins for my great grandfather, James Dalton, who came to the US in 1879. My research on the internet eventually brought me to the Dalton surname message board at Rootsweb.

I posted a message with the information that I knew about my great grandfather, and the possibility that he had emigrated from County Clare. Almost at once, I received a response from Millicent. I appreciated her interest and willingness to help. This led to an email correspondence over the next few months, and an introduction to the DGS website. Millicent's help and encouragement led me to join the DGS, and to join the Dalton International DNA Project, as well. Through the DIDP, I have found a family of "genetic cousins" in Genetic Family Group D, and have learned a great deal about the history of the Dalton surname in Ireland.

The trip we had planned for 2004 finally materialized this summer. We made plans to attend the Gathering in Birr as soon as I first read about it in "Daltons in History". For me, one of the highlights of the Gathering was meeting so many of those genetic cousins, and comparing notes on our individual family trees.

In my new role, I am looking forward to getting to know more of the membership, and to hearing about your own research challenges and victories. Please feel free to contact me at; I hope I'll hear from all of you!

With very best regards,

Karen Dalton Preston

Thank you to all who have contributed to the October 2008 issue of “Daltons in History”. As you can see, we have had a bumper response on Birr, especially from Australia. Some, or all, of the articles on Birr may find their way into the next Journal.

I am still hoping we can have some information, which I can include in one of our future issues, about the Scottish Daltons.

Please continue to send to me any ideas for future articles and also keep looking for any information to include in the Dalton Strays section.

Contributions for the November issue need to be with me no later than 25th October 2008. (e-mail: