Welcome to the November 2008 issue of “Daltons in History”. During October your officers and committee have been working hard on DGS matters as always. The focus is now firmly on the coming year of 2009, which promises to be another exciting one for the Society, and you will find the latest details below, along with various other items.

The DGS in America

Last month I announced the appointment of Karen Dalton Preston as our Assistant American Secretary. During October, Karen has been busy familiarising herself with the American membership and preparing for membership renewals. Some of you have already been in contact with her and we are delighted to have such an enthusiastic and willing pair of hands taking up this important position. You will find news from Karen below in the Notes from the American Secretary.

It is with much sadness that we report the death of Sam, the husband of Millicent Craig, on 1st October at the age of 92 after a long period of illness. Our thoughts and prayers are extended to Millicent and her family as they come to terms with their loss.

2008 Gathering in Ireland

Thank you to everyone who has written and sent photographs following the weekend in Birr in August. Last month’s “Daltons in History” carried further reminiscences demonstrating how enjoyable DGS Gathering weekends are, and I hope many of our readers will be encouraged to come and join us at a future event. I have now received a substantial number of further photographs from delegates and, as soon as time allows, I will be adding to the photo gallery and filling in some of the gaps.

The Dalton International DNA Project (DIDP)

Family Tree DNA’s special promotion, which entitled individuals to join DIDP at a reduced price, has increased substantially the number of testees in our database, and this will enhance the value of DIDP enormously for us all. We are now eagerly awaiting the results from some 15 new participants, and these will start to come through from Family Tree DNA soon. We should have them all before Christmas.

In view of these imminent additions to the DIDP database, the decision has been taken to defer publication of Issue 3 of DIDP Progress Report until early 2009. This will ensure that our DNA consultant, Chris Pomery, can include them all in his report. I have been working with Chris to agree the scope and format for his third report, and we are promised a landmark document when it is published. We have also been reviewing the interpretation of more recently received results and providing feedback to individual participants.

Now with over 120 Y DNA project participants, DIDP is one of the largest and most respected projects of its type internationally, but we still need to expand it further, particularly with individuals who have documented ancestral lines that take them back to known English or Irish Dalton origins. The strength of the database as a family history research tool lies in its size, and its continued growth is of paramount importance to us all.

For further information please look at the “Dalton DNA Project” section of the website, and do please contact me by email if you would like to join the project, or if you have any questions which you wish to raise.

Future DGS Events

The major event for 2009 is our Annual Gathering taking place in Orange, New South Wales, Australia over the weekend of 14th/15th March 2009. Initial details have been published and further details are available on this website this month. Maureen Collins and Helen Smith are working very hard with their team out in Australia to put everything in place for what, I know, will be a superb event. I for one am much looking forward to it, and to meeting delegates from Australia, from New Zealand and from around the world. We already have a good number of initial registrations and, if you would like to come and have not yet registered your interest, please do so as soon as possible for what promises to be another memorable Dalton weekend.

Later in 2009, we will hold the DGS Annual General Meeting here in England. It will be a one day event, incorporating a visit with a Dalton connection and it will be in the North of England, probably in Lancashire. As soon as details are finalised, we will announce them here on our website and, of course, they will be included with the next issue of the DGS Journal at the end of this year.

2010 marks the 40th Anniversary of the founding of the Dalton Genealogical Society and we plan to hold a special Gathering and Annual General Meeting here in Surrey, England in the summer. Initial planning is under way and, again, more details will be announced as they become available.

For 2011 and beyond we have a number of suggestions already. If you have any particular thoughts about where you might like to meet, or a particular Dalton theme you think we should incorporate, please let us know.

The DGS Journal

Back issues of the DGS Journal continue to be available. On this website you can access the DGS Journal Index from the homepage. Here you will find a full synopsis of the contents of the Journal of the Dalton Genealogical Society commencing with Volume 1 published back in 1970 through to Volume 41 published in December 2004. Lists of contents are available for Volumes 42 to 48 and the full synopses will be available shortly. Copies of all back numbers are available for purchase and these can be obtained from DGS member, Mrs Pat Robinson (address: Mallards, 3 High Street, The Green, Barrington, Cambridge CB2 5QX, UK email: Details of prices, including postage and packing, will be found with the index.


Last month’s “Daltons in History” carried a note about my visit to St George’s Chapel, Windsor. I have recently received from Charlotte Manley, the Chapter Clerk, a copy of “The Dragon”, the St George’s community newsletter, which includes details and a photograph of my visit under the caption “Canon Dalton remembered”.

One of the pleasures of my role as Chairman of the DGS is communicating with DGS members and readers of this monthly newsletter, usually by email or telephone. During the past month, I have also had occasion to meet some of our members face to face. Distance often prevents such meetings, but it is good when they can be arranged, and I look forward to trying to create more such opportunities.

Enjoy this month’s issue of “Daltons in History”, your regular monthly update on everything that is happening in the world of Dalton family history. We will be back again at the beginning of December.

Thank you for your attention and best wishes to you all.

Yours very sincerely

Michael Neale Dalton
Chairman and Honorary Life President of the Dalton Genealogical Society

A first timer for the DGS gathering in Birr, I was whooshed in amongst people who, unlike me, had ancestors well labelled. But it was a nourishing experience - both the lovely meals and the socialising and I was really pleased I attended this meeting during my stay in Ireland.

There were lots of leads and tips to follow and I researched all I could, without too much success on the Dalton side. Birr itself was fascinating. We had a highly informed local historian show us around and the visit to the 8th century site of Clonmacnoise for me was a highlight.

Thanks to Colette and Ciaran Dalton for the great music and fun on the floor after dinner. I look forward to sometime again meeting those who were attending.

Kathleen Casey, Christchurch, New Zealand.


Apologies! Have read your email rather late. I did put a thought about my last email to you but:

'I thoroughly enjoyed the Birr experience and congratulate Ciaran and Michael for their hard work. From a musical point of view it was a joy to hear Collette and Ciaran, and Dave Hegarty with his Uillean pipes. This contributed greatly to a super weekend. My only problem was the dancing where I was so confused at changing partners that I ended up with the Chairman!'

Howard J Dalton, England

From Ciaran Dalton, Irish Secretary

Continuing our search for Daltons, particularly those of Irish extraction, this month we examine the register of Trinity College, Dublin. Founded in 1592, Trinity was modelled on the residential colleges of Oxford and Cambridge. Trinity’s famous library houses many treasures, including The Books of Kells, Durrow, Armagh and has many other priceless manuscripts. Of interest to us for Daltons in History is Trinity’s register or ‘’Alumni Dublinenses’’ where we find a number of Daltons.

The work was compiled by G.D. Burtchaell and T.U. Sadlier, (1st edition 1924). It may also be found on Archive CD Books Ireland.

The register gives some detail, date first entered, fathers name and where born.

Dalton Christopher, July 14th 1676, of James, Co. Louth.

Dalton Edward, June 5th 1799, of Edward, Co. Meath.

Dalton Edward, Oct.21th 1833, of Edward Tuite, Co. Meath.

Dalton George, William, July 4th1842, of George Edward, Malta.

Dalton Henry, Oct.14th 1822, of George Forster, Dublin.

D’Alton Henry, June 9th 1846, of Henry, Tipperary.

Dalton James, Jan. 2nd 1826, of Oliver, Limerick.

D’Alton John,* July 7th 1806, of William, Co.Westmeath.

Dalton John, Mar.6th 1820, of Edward, Unknown.

Dalton John, Oct.9th 1828, fathers name unknown, from Oxford.

* Probably John D’Alton, Historian.

From Maureen Collins, Australian Secretary

The following is from a friend of mine (not a Dalton) who lives in Cumbria (her friend's name is Margaret Wickens and she has given permission for the DGS to use the information if we wish):

"You may remember that I told you one of my friends had connections with a John Dalton. I saw her today and asked for the details again. Here they are:

Her 4th great grandfather was George Bewley who died in 1828. He was headmaster of the Quaker School in Kendal. He was a cousin (by marriage) to John Dalton. John and his brother Jonathan took over the Quaker School in 1785 when George retired. Whilst there he began a journal of meteorological observations the results of which he published in 1793. He became a science teacher in Manchester in 1793 and in 1794 published the results of investigations into colour blindness from which he and his brother suffered (sometimes called Daltonism). He developed atomic theory and published the first table of atomic weights and so on! (I've just looked him up in our encyclopaedia.) He wrote letters to George Bewley and stayed with various members of his family. His dates 1766 - 1844. The only thing was he died without issue! There is always his brother Jonathan though but he seems to have died also without issue.

Thought this might be of interest."

From Howard J Dalton, DGS Minute Secretary

The following photograph is of himself and Howard Dalton of Pickering studying books at York Museum. See the next DGS Journal for the answer.

What are these two Scallywags up to?

(See the next DGS Journal)

From Pam Dalton, DGS Secretary

Here is a list of Daltons who died whilst serving in Scottish Regiments. This information was gathered whilst Dave and I were visiting Edinburgh. I do have a number of website addresses if anyone would like further information: e-mail -

Christopher J. Dalton
L/Cpl Kings Own Scottish Borderers
b. Eire
d. 15/10/44 UK

John Robert Dalton
Black Watch S/10564 Pte
Queens Own Cameron Highlanders C/21371
b. Carlisle
d. Persian Gulf 21/04/17

Charles Dalton
Royal Scots Lothian Reg 11082 Pte
b. Lochee Forfarshire
d. 28/08/15 F&F

Frederick Dalton
Royal Scots Lothian Reg 3913 Pte
b. Chasetown Staffs
d. 12/01/17 F&F

Peter Dalton
Scots Guards 2695166 Sgt
d. Italy 30/01/44

Ernest Dalton
b. Winchester
Royal Scots Fusiliers 9951 Pte
b. Cumberland
d. 23/08/14 F&F

John Edward Dalton
Royal Scots Fusiliers 15479 Pte
b. Leeds
d. 24/11/18 Balkans

Joseph P Dalton
Highland Light Infantry 14732677 Pte
b. Sheffield
d. 27/02/45 Western Europe Campaign

Conrad Dalton
Argylle & Sutherland Highlanders 301010 L/Cpl
b. West Gorton Lancs
d. 18/03/18 F&F

Edward Dalton
Argylle & Sutherland Highlanders 301176 Pte
b. Glasgow
d. 5/8/17 F&F

Thomas Dalton
Queens Own Cameron Highlanders & Liverpool Scottish 2933816 Pte
b. Dumfrieshire
d. 6/4/43 North Africa

Edward Dalton
Queens Own Cameron Highlanders 2464 Pte
d. 17/5/15

Joan Glassford Dalton
Queen Alexandra's Imperial Military Nursing Service

Lois Dalton
Queen Alexandra's Imperial Military Nursing Service 309990 Sister
b. Derbyshire
d. Western Europe Campaign 4/1/45 1944-1945

Thomas Dalton
Mercantile Marine 4th Eng Braehead 102133
b. Glasgow
d. 15/3/17

Clarence Bernard Dalton
Australian Expeditionary Force 2011 Pte 30Bn

Norman Charles Dalton
Australian Expeditionary Force 5384 Pte 15Bn

Witton Kemoorthy Dalton
Australian Expeditionary Force 867 Pte 30Bn

James C Dalton
RASC 87890 Driver
France & Belgium Campaign 1939-40
b. Perth
d. 12/6/40

Percy Nugent Dalton
London Scottish 513546 Pte
b. Birkenhead
d. 30/11/17 F&F

Walter Dalton
Gordon highlanders 290793 Cpl 7th Bn
d. 14/11/16 F&F

George Stanley Dalton
Liverpool Scottish 2807 Pte
b. Southport
d. 4/4/15 of wounds F&F

Alexander Dalton
5th Dragoon Guards 8233 Pte
b. Dundee Forfarshire
d. 31/10/16 F&F

Fred Dalton
Northumberland Fusiliers 23rd Bn 238110 Pte Formerly 1297 Manchester Regiment
b. Dukinfield Cheshire
d. 8/4/18 F&F

George Dalton
Northumberland Fusiliers 23rd Bn 21/1657 Pte
b. Newcastle On Tyne
d. 1/7/16 F&F

Patrick Dalton
Royal Dublin Fusiliers 16101 Cpl 9th Bn
b. Garrick Co. Tipperary
d. 16/8/17

James Dalton
Prince of Wales Leinster Reg (Royal Canadians) 4125 Pte 1st Bn
b. Clanmore Co. Carlow
d. 16/3/18 Egypt

John Dalton
Royal Irish Fusiliers Princess Victoria's 17742 2nd Bn
b. Waterford
d. 13/5/15 F&F

Winifred Beach Dalton
Leading Wren N/WRNS 42535
b. Glasgow
d. 12/2/44 at sea

This is the 6th and final part of an article from Rodney Dalton, USA - See note at end.

Below are some of the battles fought in what is called the “Hundred Years' War”:

(1346) The Battle of Crécy:
After the battle of Sluys, Edward III landed in Normandy in July 1346 with about 10,000 men. The French pursued. Edward III decided to halt near Crecy in Normandy and to prepare for battle the next day. However, the French vanguard made contact and started to attack without the benefit of a plan. The French made as many as 15 attacks and the English checked each one in turn mainly because of the English long bowmen. At the end, the French were decimated and the English had a decisive victory.

Image of Crecy

(1347) The Battle of Calais:
After the victory at Crecy, the English forces marched to Calais and began a successful siege that was to last a year. The French army tried to relieve Calais but retreated after finding the English position too strong. The English turned Calais into a operations base for further forays into France. It remained in English hands until 1558.

(1348) The arrival of the Black Plague in Europe and England effectively puts a damper on hostile activities. England loses approximately one-third of its population; France loses approximately one-fourth of its population.

(1356) The Battle of Poitiers:
The second major engagement of the Hundred Years' War. After a break of six years, warfare erupts again when Edward the Black Prince, son of King Edward III, raids France in 1356. King John II of France pursued Edward. Outside of Poitiers the forces met and the French dismounted and attacked. The attack almost succeeded but Edward was able to counter attack and break the French line. It was a disastrous battle for France, as the King of France (Jean II) is captured along with about 2,000 members of the French aristocracy during the initial stages of the battle, and was taken back to England. The English demanded an enormous ransom for his return - equivalent to about one third of France's GNP. France is paralyzed without a king, and cannot mount an adequate counter-offensive until the 1370s.

(1364) The Battle of Auray:
The battle of Auray centered around control of the Duchy of Brittany. English forces under John Chandos besieged the town of Auray. French troops were sent to break the siege. On September 29, 1364 the French counter-attacked. The attack was repulsed and the town surrendered. The leader of the French army, Bertrand du Guesclin, was captured and later ransomed. (1372) French troops regain Poitou and Brittany.

(1372) The Battle of La Rochelle:
There was a fierce naval battle during which France regained control of the English Channel making it impossible for England to ferry reinforcements to Calais.

(1382) The Scots, reinforced and equipped by the French, attack England.

(1389) The Scots sign a truce with England, preventing further French agitation in the north for several years.

(1415) Battle of Harfleur:
Henry V landed in France with about 10,000 men in the summer of 1415. His first objective was Harfleur, a port town in North Western France. The siege lasted for about a month and Henry marched into the town victorious but with his army severely depleted - mainly from illness. His next stop was to be Calais, but the French army intercepted him at Agincourt.

(1415) Battle of Agincourt:
After the successful siege at Harfleur, Henry marched his force of about 6000 knights, archers and men-at-arms towards Calais. During his march the French army of 20,000 was able to position itself between Henry and Calais. Henry used a narrow front channeled by woodland to give his heavily outnumbered force a chance. The French deployed in three lines. The first line of French knights attacked only to be repulsed by the English longbowmen. The second line attacked and was beaten back, their charge bogged down by the mud on the field. The third line moved to engage but lost heart when they crossed the field covered with French dead; they soon retreated. Henry was left with control of the battlefield and a decisive victory. He soon resumed his march to Calais.

(1421) Battle of Beauge:
Beauge was one of the first defeats for the English during the Hundred Years War. French and Scottish forces combine to raid the English possessions in Normandy. Thomas, the duke of Clarence, (Henry V's brother) attempted to intercept the allied forces. During the interception Thomas' cavalry out distanced his infantry. The French and Scottish forces decimated the English and Thomas was killed.

(1424) Battle of Verneuil:
In one last attempt to dislodge the English from Normandy, about 15,000 French and Scottish forces attacked the English army of 9,000 commanded by John, Duke of Bedford. The attack took place at Verneuil, about 50 miles west of Paris. The French and Scottish forces charged, but the English longbowmen cut them down quickly. About half the of the French/Scottish army were lost; the rest retreated. The result of the battle was that the Scots were removed as a major aid to the French cause.

(1422-1453) War flares again:
The English initially win numerous victories, but the peasant girl Jeanne d'Arc (Joan of Arc) appears, claiming to have had a vision from God. She puts new faith in the French armies and leads them to repeated victories against the English. By 1453, the coast of Calais is the only English possession left in France.

(1428-1429) Siege of Orleans:
The siege of Orleans was the turning point of the Hundred Years' War. After over 80 years of warfare the French finally gained the upper hand with the decisive victory at Orleans. Thomas de Montacute and 5,000 English troops begin the siege of Orleans, the largest fortified position held by Charles of France, on October 23, 1428. William de la Pole, Duke of Suffolk, succeeded Montecute in November after he was slain by a cannon ball. The siege lasted months. At around this same time, Joan of Arc appears at the court of Charles. Charles allows Joan to lead a relief force in April. In May, Joan attacks the English in unison with a force from Orleans and she drives the English from their positions. The next day they abandon the siege; military advantage now lies with the French.

(1450) Battle of Formigny:
After French victory at Rouen in October 1449, Charles VII continues the French offensive and presses the English back into the town of Formigny. French artillary blasts away at most of the English army and the English are badly defeated losing more than 4,000 men out of a force of 5,000. Formigny marks the end of the fighting in Northern France.

(1453) Battle of Castillon:
Castillon is the final engagement of the Hundred Years War. After being driven out of Northern France the previous few years, Henry VI sends a new army to Bordeaux in Southwestern France He seeks to maintain at least some territory in France. In July 1453 the English forces attack a French force that was besieging the town of Castillon. The attacked is repulsed, the English are routed, and Shrewsbury is killed. Bordeaux becomes French territory and the final English survivors sail for home.

So the last battle of the Hundred Years Wars was fought in 1453 and our Dalton's Knights living at the time were the sons of Sir John Dalton II; Sir Richard b. 1380; Sir John and Sir Robert b. 1386. We have no record of these sons fighting in any wars.

Sir Robert Dalton had a son, Sir Richard, born about 1448 who had a son, Sir Roger, born about 1469 and who was the last of our medieval Dalton Knights. Were any of these last Daltons involved in the next set of wars in Northern England about this time called the War of the Roses? Remember that our Daltons held lands in both Lancashire and Yorkshire at this time.

The Wars of the Roses were a series of civil wars fought in medieval England from 1455 to 1487 between the House of Lancaster and the House of York. The name Wars of the Roses is based on the badges used by the two sides, the red rose for the Lancastrians and the white rose for the Yorkists. Major causes of the conflict include; both houses were direct descendents of King Edward III; the ruling Lancastrian King, Henry VI, surrounded himself with unpopular nobles; the civil unrest of much of the population; the availability of many powerful lords with their own private armies; and the untimely episodes of mental illness by King Henry VI.

Note, I have no record as yet that Sir Robert Dalton, born about 1386 and his son Sir Richard Dalton, born about 1448 were Knights, but do have records that show both men as being esquires. But the son of Sir Richard, being Sir Roger Dalton has a will in his hand and was proved in the Prerogative Court of the Archbishop of Canterbury and reads; “In the name of God Amen the tenth day of March in the year of our Lord 1531, I, Roger Dalton, Knight of sound mind and good memory but sick in body make my will in this form..............”

There is a long history that in the landed gentry class of peoples in Medieval England that the title of Knighthood was passed along to the oldest son upon the death of the father, so it is reasonable to assume that the above mentioned Sir Robert and his son, Sir Richard were also Knights.

So here you have my story about our Dalton family Knights who fought in many wars and survived so I could write about them.

I take full responsibility for the Dalton pedigree listings of the above Dalton Knights who have “Sir” before their names. If there is a mistake please correct me with an e-mail.

Researched, complied, formated, indexed and written from various sources by Rodney G. Dalton, the 21st g-grandson of Sir Richard de Dalton I. (

There are no Dalton strays for inclusion this month but we do have a request from Kathleen Casey of New Zealand:

I am looking for information on the family of MARY JOSEPHINE DALTON, born August 1853, who emigrated at age 19 as a single woman to New Zealand. Her parents were James Dalton and Mary Flyn, on her baptismal certificate, and the family has always understood home was in Limerick, though Mary J was born in Killarney. She had a brother Maurice. James had a livery stables, at least till about the time his daughter left, and Mary Flyn was a teacher of lace making - not from my research - mentioned with the school for this in Limerick. The family does not turn up in Limerick City records and perhaps were somewhere in the county.

Kathleen's e-mail address is:

Dear DGS Members,

After the announcement in the October 2008 issue, many members contacted me with their congratulations and good wishes. I would like to thank all of you for your kind words and support!

As Michael mentioned, Millicent and I are working to transition her responsibilities. One of my first tasks in October 2008 was to work with Millicent to begin the transfer of her files and membership records. I now have all of the North American member information, and have organized it into a format that can be searched and sorted. With this database in place, I have begun to send out membership renewal reminders. I am pleased to say I have had a very good response.

New Members:

We have a new member, Jennifer Fenster from Georgia. Jennifer traces her Dalton line back to the Carroll County, Virginia Daltons. Please join me in welcoming Jennifer into the DGS family.

Dalton Data Bank:

David and I have been working on providing a search function for the Dalton Data Bank information. As you know, the data is organized by geographic location, and then by type of information. But, what if you are searching for information for an ancestor in Ireland, for example, but don't know which County they came from? When fully implemented, the search function will provide a true searchable database for the Dalton Data Bank data.

The conversion process is progressing steadily; David is working on the search engine itself, and we are both working to convert the data into files in database format. We began with Millicent's recently updated file for the Republic of Ireland. At present, the birth and death data from Ireland has been converted. We are in the process of converting all the marriages which when completed will allow members to search for information by first name, last name, by year, or by County in Ireland, or any combination of search criterion. We hope to be able to announce its availability on a trial basis soon. Our goal is to convert the entire Dalton Data Bank to this searchable format.

Please feel free to contact me at; I hope I'll hear from all of you!

With very best regards,

Karen Dalton Preston

Thank you to all who have contributed to the November 2008 issue of “Daltons in History”. As you can see we do have something on Scottish Daltons but not as I envisaged!! Please hurry and let me have something about Scottish Daltons!

Please continue to send to me any ideas for future articles and also keep looking for any information to include in the Dalton Strays section.

Contributions for the December issue need to be with me no later than 25th November 2008. (e-mail: